The Doomed Forum

Frenchie · Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 5:14 pm Post subject:

Well, to me it was one of the highlights of 2007, so... ;)

But on the other hand, I keep forgetting bands : I must add to my list Amartia by Pantheist and Prelude To Monolith by Until Death Overtakes Me.

Those are waaaaaaaaay more Funeral than Moss, which is a great band nonetheless
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Frenchie · Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 6:11 pm Post subject:

@Vitriol : I know and I enjoy, thanks ;)

@Loki : if it's a Black/Funeral Doom hybrid, so there's part Funeral Doom in it, right? Therefore it can be qualified as such, right? *this was the useless genre rant of the day : who cares? Nortt rocks, and that's all*

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Silverdrone · Forum User Joined: 07 Jul 2007 Posts: 474

I wouldn't vote for Nortt, his music kills kittens worldwide. A girl friend I know came up with a theory that Nortt stays thin by eating his shirts, thus in his pictures his shirt seems to be missing but in fact it is in his misanthropic tummy.

Loki@Hyperblastmetal.com · Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 6:20 pm Post subject:

oneinfinity · Forum User Joined: 27 Dec 2007 Posts: 8 Location: Germany

I would say the best Funeral Doom Album is Worship - Dooom. I also think Ahab- The Call of the Wretched Sea and Tyranny - Tides of Awakening need to be mentioned.

funeraltear · Forum User Joined: 26 Dec 2007 Posts: 17

also i forgot to mention comatose vigil not a gleam of hope
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The Reverend of Despair · Forum User Joined: 04 Nov 2007 Posts: 102 Location: USA

By the Candles Obsequial by Autumnia is an awesome album

Enki · Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:01 pm Post subject:

Since the thread-title says "Debate" and not "just post your favorites"...
There will never be ONE perfect funeral doom album, because even in this sub-sub-genre most of the bands are very individual.
Compare Tides of Awakening to The Monad of Creation for example. They sound quite different from each other, but are both labeled funeral doom.

So... if I leave personal tastes or how much an album "means" to me aside (which is not that easy), I don't have any kind of guideline on how a funeral doom album should sound like in order to be "perfect".
Unless, of course, I go back to those who brought the genre to life and consider their first albums as the "purest" and so on... these would be Thergothon's Stream from the Heavens and Skepticism's Stormcrowfleet.

When asking about favorites... mine are:
Skepticism - Farmakon
Mournful Congregation - The Monad of Creation
(Worship still need some more spins.)

Dan · Guest

I think it's a little early to start listing Dooom as the best funeral doom album ever. I chose Last Format... because I think it the songs are brilliantly put together, the sound is just right for the music, and the songs change at just the right moments to keep my interest going.

Conqueror Worm · Forum User Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 100

I pretty much agree what Dan said ... aaand since this was supposed to be a debate, could you people please elaborate abit more what makes "dooom" from Worship such a special release for you? I mean, I've had this CD for few weeks now and I've fully listened to it about 3 or 4 times and it still doesn't capture me that much ... Not really memorable moments to be found and I still can't remember a single riff off the album. Granted, it has a gloomy atmosphere but nothing groundbreaking here, some better riffs coming in at the last segments of the album. Perhaps I need some time for me to sink in, but overall, the "last whatever before doomsday" had a more captivating precence from the start! This new album just hasn't had that effect on me at all ... should I still keep on trying or spend my precious time listening to the loads of other albums that are out there?

Nortt ... hmm... the stuff is good, but the CDs don't get that many spins in my household for somereasons. Nortt managed to capture some ominous and authentically creepy atmospheres atleast on the "Ligfærd" album .. and yet again, as it is with most of the funeral doom type albums, this albums works more as a stream of sound, a continuous piece of atmospheres rather than some song based stuff with singularly memorable tracks. The other albums from Nortt which I have are more straightforward and black metal type structured ... If I'm truly honest, when I want to listen to this type of stuff I'll put on Burzum's "Filosofem" or "Hvis Lyset tar Oss" ... or The Austrasian Goat's S/T!!! Hah, yes, I said it. A recent discovery which proved out to be rather good, though nothing new in any sense ... the atmospheres and minimalistic song writing worked atleast for me, and on some songs the Godflesh influence is also clearly audible, which is a good bonus.

One essential funeral doom release, atleast for me, that you people have forgot to mention is the first two demos from Hierophant - essential and captivating minimalism, that somehow was sadly lost on later works of J. Del Russi or Xathahahgrraawhatever ... no, I didn't like the third and last Hierophant demo and Catacombs somehow continued on this path never fully returning to the glory of the first two demos.

Not commenting on Tyranny stuff, hahaha! That would be either too embarassing or just morbid self-masturbation for me ...

Dan · Guest

I did like Dooom, but it just couldn't top Last Format. Maybe you should give it a few more spins at a later date and try it again. I actually agree with you about Nortt as well. Ligaerd didn't leave my CD player for months at one point, but none of the other albums really captured my attention. I think you summed it up rather well as a stream of sound and atmosphere rather than actual songs.

The Heirophant demos were great, although I like the third as well. The Tome was rather badly put together I think with the first two tracks repeating straight after eachother. I tend to skip the first two and listen to it from there, but the demos were great. Catacombs didn't really float my boat much, although the album was better than the demo.

Silverdrone · Forum User Joined: 07 Jul 2007 Posts: 474

I've had Dooom for a few weeks and apart of Endzeit Elegies everything else just seems boring...Nortt isn't anything special in my own opinion either. And since it's mentioned, Tyranny's Tides of Awakening + UDOM's Symphony III - Monolith = 2 great albums. The artwork for TOA would look great on Vinyl, the art in the booklet looks like it was made for vinyl...

the stranger · Guest

The Monad Of Creation is full of beautiful music, absolutely emotional, but I never liked those growls. Im my opinion, they took something away of the music instead of bringing something else. The atmospheres on that album are by far among the best I've heard in my entire life. I would choose it for the best funeral record if it were for the growls.
I didn't like Hierophant or Catacombs when I heard them. I couldn't find anything to them that I enjoy, the same with Skepticism and Thergothon.
Somnium Mortuum's Eternal Sleep is rather good and innovative, tough I wouldn't choose it as the most perfect funeral doom album; just pointing out a very good record, hence funeral's main characteristic are atmospheres this album is full of them.
My pick goes for Shape of Despair's Angels of Distress, I pick it for what I feel everytime I hear it, none other funeral album does the same for me.

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Loki@Hyperblastmetal.com · Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:49 am Post subject:

I love "Dooom". I think it's extremely good indeed, especially considering that the amount of quality Doom releases in the current times appear to be somewhat stuttering. I like the way D. doesn't just stick to what he knows has been successful prior to that and tries something new, as well as pulling it off. I think the new sound he created was created extremely well - it's not difficult to make that kind of music and make it sound cheesy as fuck, but in this instance - it didn't. However, I just don't think it's been long enough to consider "Dooom" a "perfect" album. For me this has to be proven over time, and it's not been that long at all since it was released.
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Frenchie · Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 12:57 pm Post subject:

funeraltear · Forum User Joined: 26 Dec 2007 Posts: 17

another funeral album i cant resist to listen to every now and then is portrait of a dream by 1000 funerals
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de Tuinman en de Dood · Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:48 pm Post subject:

Shape of Despair - Illusion's Play
Tyranny - Tides of Awakening

Very different albums, yet they have some things in common. Both are characterised by atmosphere and this 'stream of sounds', as someone before me called it. Both singers have incredibly low and deep growls, which to me is necessary for this type of music. Both have excellent production. While I love 'Illusion's Play' for its warm soothing and mesmerising sounds, 'Tides of Awakening' sounds absolutely cold and crushing. So I guess Tyranny's album is closer to the essence of funeral.

And of course they're both from Finland, the home of funeral doom.