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I'm not sure if there's a thread for this but is anyone here going to see the new Star Wars movie? I was a huge fan of the originals but ended up hating the franchise after the prequels came out. I'm actually kind of excited to see this film, primarily because Lucas isn't involved. Anyone else?

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there's no thread, but there's a "Media, Film & Television" subforum for things like that :) I'm gonna see it, probably the midnight screening. would rather have Lucas' original story for episodes VI-IX, tbh. JJ Abrams is good for pop corn movies like Star Trek and 8mm, SW requires a bit more "soul". some people have told me Joss Whedon would have aced it, but haven't watched Firefly, etc.


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there's no thread, but there's a "Media, Film & Television" subforum for things like that :) I'm gonna see it, probably the midnight screening. would rather have Lucas' original story for episodes VI-IX, tbh. JJ Abrams is good for pop corn movies like Star Trek and 8mm, SW requires a bit more "soul". some people have told me Joss Whedon would have aced it, but haven't watched Firefly, etc.


Firefly sucked. I'm a huge Buffy the Vampire/Angel fan and for years had lots of people telling me that Firefly was the best. So imagine my surprise when it turned out to be complete shit. Whedon isn't the writing god he's been made out to be. He got lucky with BTVS and Angel (and for arguments sake the first Avengers movie) but he's a hack. Lucas ruined Star Wars not only with endless updates to the originals but with the laughably bad prequels. I'm happy he's got nothing to do with this movie. JJ made Star Trek interesting and I'm not a trekkie. I think he'll do a good job. The fact that he want to use as many practical effects as possible as opposed to Lucas speaks volumes.

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Thread moved. :;):

It's interesting that you'd say Abrams made Star Trek interesting. I do like much of Abram's work (big fan of both Lost and Fringe, and enjoyed Super 8 etc.), but his ST films were a total insult to the franchise in my book - terribly dull and uninspired screenplays, flat humour, canonical errors and contradictions all over the place. Entertaining to some degree, yes, but they were essentially just superficial sci-fi flicks for the masses. The fact that you refer to ST as "pop corn movies" and claim SW requires more "soul" really says it all. The ST franchise used to have much more depth, soul and, above all, relevance* to it. Don't judge ST primarily by the films, btw. They're just a minor addendum, even though some of them are really good (most aren't, sadly). SW, on the other hand, to me is essentially a fairytale in space which doesn't make much of an effort to comment on the socio-political situation of its time. Don't get me wrong, that's perfectly fine and I'm writing this as a fan of the original trilogy, but to claim it has/needs more soul than ST is simply wrong in my book, unless by "soul" you actually meen "pathos". As for the new one, I have no expectations, but will probably watch it someday.

*relevance in the sense of 'proper' sci-fi, i.e. dealing with essential human experiences in a challenging way and discussing questions of political and social topicality on a fictionalised level.

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Saw it last night, (The Force Awakens) and as someone who grew up with the 'originals' I thought it was very good. Entertaining and true to the simple good vs. evil story from Episode IV. Better characters than much of the prequels. The references back to the original films were subtle where needed and the ones that weren't were nicely placed. Even some of the dialogue which was a bit 'Die Hard' in places coildn't spoil an otherwise thoroughly enjoyable experience. Worth a look.

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Didn't expect anything from it and it was quite a nice thing to see. The main villain is very annoying though.

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I purchased the blu ray this week. There are some great extras, including a 'Making Of' documentary that really demonstrates how JJ Abrams tried to embrace the feel of the original movies; real puppets, animatronics, actual sets and a life size Milennium Falcon that made grown men weep when they saw it!

Definitely recommended, especially for any Star Wars fan that never saw it at the cinema. We can finally consign the ghastly prequels to history's dustbin. :)

The only minor disappointment for me was that the rumour floating around the internet that Jar Jar Binks was going to be brutally killed in the opening scene turned out not to be true.

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The only minor disappointment for me was that the rumour floating around the internet that Jar Jar Binks was going to be brutally killed in the opening scene turned out not to be true.


this (and the yoda bit) were only in the theatrical version, and edited out of the dvd/br version... I think I heard they're still there as easter eggs, tho.


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The only minor disappointment for me was that the rumour floating around the internet that Jar Jar Binks was going to be brutally killed in the opening scene turned out not to be true.


You can defile his skull in Star Wars: The Force Unleashed. I think you get an achievement for it. lol. Also in the Lego Star Wars games, if you kill him X amount of times you get an achievement for it.

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Not a fan, they're severely overrated because people today are desperate for the franchise to return to form.

Having a 'Mary Sue' trope lead the new films while selling the rights to Disney and dumping all the previously established canon into the "Star Wars Legends" dustbin was a massive mistake typical of Hollywood. Stick to the original trilogy, the books and the games is my advice to anybody.

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The Last Jedi is probably my favorite Star Wars movie in general, and that's from someone who grew up on and loved the original trilogy. :p The Force Awakens was mostly pretty good as well. I also don't really care what direction this franchise goes, I just know that I like what I like. I think people should watch all of the movies if they care enough, and make their own minds up for themselves. The 'internet' tends to make opinions about entertainment way too much of a intellectual contest, at least lately imo.


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I don't understand that at all, they're so awful and forgettable. Especially The Last Jedi which is riddled with issues for me. I thought and still think that they won't stand the test of time.

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I still haven't seen it. :)

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My rating:
1. RO
2. TESB
3. ANH
4. TLJ
5. ROTJ
6. TFA
7. Episode 3 cant remember the name
8. TPM
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I stopped watching Star Wars when I was 10. That was the Return of the Jedi on the big screen. Two years later, I stopped playing with playmobil toys altogether and got totally hooked by horror movies.

Right now, I more of a John Wick series fan (although two episodes don't make a series, but the third installment will correct that!)

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I like most SciFi Movies.

Horror or meaningless violence doesn't get me at all.

Besides that I am a huge Bond fan.

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Star Wars: A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back are, for me, masterpieces. I couldn't care less about the rest.

John Wick are fun films for what they are. If released in another decade nobody would really care about them I don't think, but in this day and age we are very rarely treated to a simplistic, action-packed film that doesn't play out like a Michael Bay blockbuster. It keeps it very simple, like all good revenge-action films should be, something which average people are thirsty for after decades of pontificating Hollywood drivel.

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It keeps it very simple, like all good revenge-action films should be,


Yeah, it's some very pure brutal, to-the-point, non-stop action with enough idiosyncrasies and oddities to make the concept stand out. I'mnot a Keanu Reeves fan, but I respect the career on the fringes he's building for him-self.
That being said, I don't like the concept of series, I am not really attached to characters - (with the exception of Indiana Jones maybe... Although the 4th episode kind of ridiculed him... And of course Charlie Chaplin and Buster Keaton! :D )

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It keeps it very simple, like all good revenge-action films should be,


Yeah, it's some very pure brutal, to-the-point, non-stop action with enough idiosyncrasies and oddities to make the concept stand out. I'mnot a Keanu Reeves fan, but I respect the career on the fringes he's building for him-self.
That being said, I don't like the concept of series, I am not really attached to characters - (with the exception of Indiana Jones maybe... Although the 4th episode kind of ridiculed him... And of course Charlie Chaplin and Buster Keaton! :D )


The problem with a series is that it's very hard to not make it seem like empty franchise-milking. Indiana Jones I think did a good job at it, though I also think the 4th film was a flop. I also have a very hard time growing attached to a character enough for it to carry over throughout a series of films and the negative aspect is that once you do get attached to a character, they go ahead and churn out a film that ruins the character's aspects that you grew attached to and now you view the film even more negatively than you may have if the character itself was justly portrayed.

One of the few characters I am attached to is Ripley from the Alien films and they never did ruin her for me, even if Alien 3 and Alien: Resurrection weren't exactly the best films, the character of Ripley herself survived the series in tact.

Unlike Luke Skywalker, who in my view was totally betrayed as a character in The Last Jedi.

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yes, the Alien franchise is worthy of praise, I like how each episode has a strong, distinctive personality, and the character of Ripley is really solid with enough shades to give it substance.

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