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"To kill a man to defend an idea is not the defending of an idea, it is the murder of a man" Jean Luc Godard

Anyone else (american or european) felt insulted by seeing western "civilized", "democratic" and "educated" people parting over a dead body?

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Somewhat. I think most of us somewhat expected that the US would get him at some point to show off their militarized masculinity (e.g. that they can thrust their dick wherever they want). I think the story sucks and that you quite hit the spot with the quote.

In particular, I see quite a lot of interesting stuff with the policy of un-photo/proof - as interestingly enough, I've been finding Osama's genius being that of a strategy of communicating images instead of explicit messages. I'll probably wait for the WikiLeaks release to make myself the mind about what exactly did the US Military arch-idiot bureaucrats (well, not so much in the sense of non-thinking, but in the sense of self-obsession that fuels their inability to create anything but problems) think of achieving with this-or-that way of running the(se) operation(s).
Anyways, I think this is an opportunity for Obama to cut down many of the War on Terror policies and fundings, but I think that putting hope upon the US ever since the 1970s (the start of the relative material - although not financial - decline) or so is a waste of faith.

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I believe that he never existed.


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Who cares? and i don't agree with the statement of Jean Luc Godard, there are people who actually deserve to die.

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FOreStyShadOw°°o wrote:
Who cares? and i don't agree with the statement of Jean Luc Godard, there are people who actually deserve to die.



Who decides that? I can't, can you?

But that wasn't the point of what I said.

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Insulted? Not in the least.
He was a bad seed - as are all serial killers/mass murderers.

"War" is hell no matter which side you are on.

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FOreStyShadOw°°o wrote:
Who cares? and i don't agree with the statement of Jean Luc Godard, there are people who actually deserve to die.



Who decides that? I can't, can you?

But that wasn't the point of what I said.


Yes i know. Good and evil may be subjective but he was a public danger that's why i said that and to answer your question i'm not insulted at all, there are thousands of innocent people who die in horrible conditions on a daily basis, you never hear about that, so who cares about the death of a mass murderer? and partying over a dead body is not civilized. His death doesn't really change anything but it's good that we got rid of him.

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Insulted? Not in the least.
He was a bad seed - as are all serial killers/mass murderers.

"War" is hell no matter which side you are on.

I never really accepted the "war" rhetoric, this encounter with terror is unfortunately much more about policing/surveillance and governing the "'problem' spots" instead of anything that would come close to a definition of war.

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I wasn't "insulted", I just found it rather tasteless...

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They feel they are in a holy 'war' so the come-back is a 'war' against terrorism.
Everybody hates the US - get in line. :p

I feel sad that people seem to think the average US citizen represents their government. :huh: Never could figure that one out. :S

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strigoi wrote:
I feel sad that people seem to think the average US citizen represents their government. :huh: Never could figure that one out. :S

At least Glenn Beck is being pulled off...

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Wasn't that long ago that people like Bin Laden weren't seen as terrorists at all. Terrorist/Freedom Fighter, the definition changes depending on who they are fighting against...
They aren't the only ones fighting a "holy war". In some cases you could say we reap what we sow...


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In some cases you could say we reap what we sow...

Sorry for the off topic, but made me think of the sentence "Dinner is served, bitches!"

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i cant help but agree. i am kinda offended, not that they killed him, but that people are celebrating his death the same way he did when the towers were hit. we are just as bad as they are whether or not people realise it or not. the human race sucks so much most times.

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"To kill a man to defend an idea is not the defending of an idea, it is the murder of a man" Jean Luc Godard

Anyone else (american or european) felt insulted by seeing western "civilized", "democratic" and "educated" people parting over a dead body?

This is exactly how I felt.


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Since I'm not form the US, I have pretty neutral feelings on the subject...

I gotta say, though, that the US's reckless persistence has finally payed off lol. Seems like a pretty small victory for them though. I don't think they can justify all the money spent and citizens killed just to get a single person. If taking out bin Laden caused the extremist groups to crumble and disperse, then I think it would be something to call home about. But it's only one fly in a swarm.

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There are different feelings in the Middle East.

You got loads of Muslims partying even way harder than the Americans because Osama Bin Laden has given Islam a bad name.

You got loads of Arabs from different religious backgrounds partying as well.

And you got the Muslims who felt sympathy towards the man (Only because he's Muslim, and not that they support "everything" he did) who was the only one in existence who had the balls to say "F*** You America* in the harshest way.

And you got the radicals who are probably mourning to this day.

So how do I feel about this? Well, it looks Osama Bin Hiding is the new "Hide and Seek" champion and the 10 years of "Al Qaeda TV series" was quite entertaining...

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