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I used to think weed was great. I've given it up now as it turned me into an apathetic fool who thought he was "expanding his mind" but really, it was doing the opposite. Plus, it's so obvious to 'normal' people that you spend your evenings smoking drugs instead of doing something constructive.
This isn't an attack on anyone that takes drugs, you want to take them go ahead, it means nothing to me and I won't try and tell you not to do them just because I don't anymore.


Do you think you would be who you are now if you never did weed? And do you think that the experiences and insights its use provided you with were useless? I don't know how anyone could call it not expanding your mind, though I guess you could argue that it is not a good expansion. Though that is a more subjective matter. :p

And the apathy, wouldn't it be more accurate to blame the fucked up state the world is currently in?

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Yeah I see what you mean, the 'normal' people just coming home from work, watching tv, going to the pub etc....
And yes, it is perfectly possible to smoke pot and still do constructive things with your time. No problem with anyone that smokes the stuff, I've had some damn good times on drugs; I would be lying if I said otherwise.
I know a few people that smoke pot that are quite successful in their lives, but I know even more that are just wasters in the same way that excessive drinkers are. Not that I'm implying most people here are wasters if they smoke pot/drink alcohol. But at this point in my life I just have to leave all those drugs behind, same as I left alcohol behind just over 10 years ago.


The lack of success I would think is more connected to prohibition then the drug itself. And of course I am not considering all those musicians whose music is undeniably influenced by drugs. :p
I would Uncertainty Principle is. :)

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i agree with the above statements. for me drugs and alcohol turned me into a bitter dirty slob. had to let it go. turned to meditation and coffee and i feel better.


Caffeine is a drug...and a quite addicting one too...


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Drugs are a double edged sword, I've been on both sides of it. They can expand your mind but they can also mess it up.
To begin with drugs are fun, once they become a habit they are hard to escape from. I could sit and smoke ounces of weed a week, that was bad (not to mention all the other drugs I did in my youth). That is when you aren't expanding your mind, you become a slave to your habits.
And sure, Uncertainty Principle is/was highly influenced by drugs; I was completely fucked out of my head the entire time. You could have put any amount of weed in front of me and I'd have smoked it 24/7; and I did. I was a zombie. It was making my mind slow. Though drugs aren't the reason I made/make music like that (haha they certainly helped though!), I've always had this urge to go against the flow, even when I was little.
I had plenty of good times on drugs; but drugs are also responsible for the lowest points in my life. Ok, I'm responsible for those low points, not the drugs but you get what I mean.


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to be clear when i say drugs i'm talking about something that fucks you up. you drink coffee you are still sober. you can't tell me its the same thing. i've been really goddamn high i know its not. i totally relate to what thx1138 is saying. i loved playing music high but eventually i just wasn't myself anymore and i got really resentful. since i stopped my music has gotten a lot less one sided. i actually talk to people now, i'm not in a room alone fucked up watching porn cutting myself thinking about killing people. drugs can take you there, not saying they will, just saying they did for me. that's my experience that's all. i just feel like this thread needs some of the dark side of drugs mentioned. it ain't all fun and games.


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Drugs are a double edged sword, I've been on both sides of it. They can expand your mind but they can also mess it up.
To begin with drugs are fun, once they become a habit they are hard to escape from. I could sit and smoke ounces of weed a week, that was bad (not to mention all the other drugs I did in my youth). That is when you aren't expanding your mind, you become a slave to your habits.
And sure, Uncertainty Principle is/was highly influenced by drugs; I was completely fucked out of my head the entire time. You could have put any amount of weed in front of me and I'd have smoked it 24/7; and I did. I was a zombie. It was making my mind slow. Though drugs aren't the reason I made/make music like that (haha they certainly helped though!), I've always had this urge to go against the flow, even when I was little.
I had plenty of good times on drugs; but drugs are also responsible for the lowest points in my life. Ok, I'm responsible for those low points, not the drugs but you get what I mean.


Fair enough. :)

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to be clear when i say drugs i'm talking about something that fucks you up. you drink coffee you are still sober. you can't tell me its the same thing. i've been really goddamn high i know its not. i totally relate to what thx1138 is saying. i loved playing music high but eventually i just wasn't myself anymore and i got really resentful. since i stopped my music has gotten a lot less one sided. i actually talk to people now, i'm not in a room alone fucked up watching porn cutting myself thinking about killing people. drugs can take you there, not saying they will, just saying they did for me. that's my experience that's all. i just feel like this thread needs some of the dark side of drugs mentioned. it ain't all fun and games.


I wouldn't dismiss the effect caffeine can have so easily, nor the addiction potential. I am not saying its the same thing (That would be stupid), but it certainly is a drug. One that I personally wouldn't underestimate. (That is always a mistake with addictive substances)


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If anyone here will be at Hammer of Doom 2 this weekend and can help some Irish people with something to smoke, please pm me...


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Anything is okay in moderation. I agree with the people on this forum who say that it's when you misuse/abuse drugs that it becomes a real problem. I've had a past battle with alcohol abuse and im happy i found help when i did before it spilled over into actual alcoholism. Plus I'm 21 so that's a huge boost. I still have a whole life ahead of me. I haven't become abstinent though. I moderate, because beer just tastes too good to pass up. Hehe

But yeah, drugs are fine with me. Just don't fuck it up by becoming an addict later on. That's when the table turns on you so to speak

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here's something i want to clear up with the last post. people are born addicts. you can't become an addict just by getting high or drunk a lot, you either are or you aren't. in the same way if you're an addict you are always an addict. also there is a huge difference between being addicted to a substance and actually being a drug addict/alcoholic. for example, if you need to take pain killers for an extended period of time because of medical reasons you'll get addicted to them, but that doesn't mean you're a drug addict. if you aren't abstinent and you aren't in a black out now than you aren't an alcoholic.


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Nothing wrong with a big, fat blunt every so often. Using hard drugs(heroin, cocaine, morphine, dilauda) is like playing "Russian Roulette". My cousin 44 yrs old overdosed and died this past Sunday from fuckin' heroin. It's not worth your life man. And if people are out there using, you better get clean. No one is immune to ending up on a morgue slab because of that shit.

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In the end you are only playing with your senses. 2, 3, 30, 40 years you'll be dead and who'll care? It doesn't matter.
One positive individual there. What the Fuck man!!

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Beerman wrote:
In the end you are only playing with your senses. 2, 3, 30, 40 years you'll be dead and who'll care? It doesn't matter.
One positive individual there. What the Fuck man!!


this forum specializes in positive :)


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Personally I don't believe in doing that shit. If people want to its their choice however.

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it has no point in telling to people who do drugs that there is a downside. When you're on it, that is what counts.
I stopped doing weed some time ago, and I can tell you that, once you've stopped that is the time you see that weed (this was my thing) really puts a stop to normal routine.
Now I can do something, as with weed in my system, I allways had the need to do nothing.

And I don't say that doing it once in a while is bad, no! Just do it with ease.
It's like being drunk, one time can be fun, but drunk all the time, nah.

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sobriety is a trip


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Not all drugs are good. Some of them are great. Thus spake Bill Hicks and never truer words had been said of the issue.


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and we all know bill hicks is always right :;):


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I think all personal possession of personal use quantities should be decriminalized. Making meth & other toxic crap needs to be still criminal but growing n' selling pot & shrooms should be legal.


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to be clear when i say drugs i'm talking about something that fucks you up. you drink coffee you are still sober. you can't tell me its the same thing.

Doing speed can also cause a feeling of extreme clarity. Like caffeine and other stimulants it has been successfully used as a performance enhancer for years. So "fucking you up" may not be a good characteristic for classifying what is a drug and what isn't.
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i'm not in a room alone fucked up watching porn cutting myself thinking about killing people.

Dude, don't mess with drugs if you already have mental problems.


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AAah a drug section! How wonderful!
Im a weedhead and smoke in periods quite heavely!

I have no doubt long since traveled past the line where it goes to unhealthy proportions but hey...drugs make me feel good so...its just a price im willing to pay!

New here, i shall look closer in the thread later, right now im just up waitin for time to go to work cos i cant sleep! i give you a gloriously wonderful image of my last plant i grew!
I loved her very much.

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Cannabis and hallucinogens [psilocybin, DMT] are about as far into the drug scene as I prefer to go these days but I've done my fair share of more potent pharmaceuiticals.

I do like a good beer or 10 on occasion as well, but I prefer Cannabis over it any day.

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