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I can recommend everyone to check out "69 Love Songs" by The Magnetic Fields: it's a 3 CD concept album consisting of - and dealing with - well, 69 love songs. :D Enjoyable stuff with a lot of clever humour in the lyrics, and some nice musical ideas as well. I myself have only heard the first CD up to now plus the song "The Death of Ferdinand de Saussure" which every linguist should have heard at least once, and which was also the one I wanted to post earlier. Since I didn't find it (not the original at any rate), today I was tempted to simply post one of my own tracks instead as my two cents to the topic (in addition to the 50 cents I've already delivered), but then I realised that I wasn't in the mood for making a fool out of myself. :sarcasm:

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Today's top tip...

The path of true love runs infinitely more smoothly if you can reach an early accord over who does the washing-up.

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So how are the chances for a couple that's clear about their division of labour right away? One of them is responsible for washing up, the other for drying up, and they take turns in those roles whenever it's time to wash the dishes.

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dishwasher boys... what more to say? .P


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So how are the chances for a couple that's clear about their division of labour right away? One of them is responsible for washing up, the other for drying up, and they take turns in those roles whenever it's time to wash the dishes.


I think that has a great shot at standing the test of time, although it still leaves you vulnerable to pre-emptive flanking strikes over accidentally leaving the toilet seat up... :D

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So how are the chances for a couple that's clear about their division of labour right away? One of them is responsible for washing up, the other for drying up, and they take turns in those roles whenever it's time to wash the dishes.
That sounds great. I have a similar thing going at home. She cooks, I clean up after her. It doesn't hurt that she is chef-quality and that my ADD medicine makes me like a little tweaker sometimes.


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To clarify my post, it was more of a hypothetical thing, it's not that I'm actually living in such a relationship. I've lived alone for years, meaning that I'm very much used to washing the dishes and don't mind it at all. In my last relationship, though, things actually worked pretty much that way. But the toilet seat thing happened to me one or two times indeed... Or maybe three? :D But it was my toilet seat, dammit, I can do whatever I want with it!

Because I love you all so much, I feel inclined to torture you a little bit:

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In her enthusiasm for letting us know the answer, young Daisy appears to have forgotten to mention what the question was... :p

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I don't dare click on the start button...

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I myself only managed to listen to it up to 0:30 or so, shortly after the actual vocals set in. :D But somehow I remembered that song and video the other day when thinking about this thread. Déjà-vu from a long forgotten time.

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Damn, it's lucky you've got a good memory, otherwise we might have missed out on that!

I have tried the "it's my toilet seat argument". It turns out I was mistaken :D .

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OK, strictly speaking it wasn't mine either, it belonged to my landlord, but I payed the rent! :p

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Most people I guess would agree with this love song, but I'm with the nihilist at the end. I don't know what he's saying because he says it in German, but from his reaction, the hissing of hatred and spittle through his teeth to all that sloppy woppy about... "How the world disrespects me, how I am lonely, unhappy, inconsolable. How my wailing and a-moaning falls on deaf ears in heaven, how I curse my luck, how I envy others. How I loathe myself, how I disgust me... but then I think of you and I soar, suddenly, like a lark ascending I rise, I'm alive, touching heaven. You give me the strength to ignore the ugliness of others, and despite my lot, I wouldn't swap my place with the King of England if it meant losing you."

If I only knew what the guy at the end says I'd know what my thoughts are about love. Can anyone help?



When, in disgrace with fortune and men's eyes,
I all alone beweep my outcast state,
And trouble deaf heaven with my bootless cries,
And look upon myself, and curse my fate,

Wishing me like to one more rich in hope,
Featur'd like him, like him with friends possess'd,
Desiring this man's art and that man's scope,
With what I most enjoy contented least;

Yet in these thoughts myself almost despising,
Haply I think on thee, and then my state,
Like to the lark at break of day arising
From sullen earth, sings hymns at heaven's gate;

For thy sweet love remember'd such wealth brings
That then I scorn to change my state with kings.

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Go and catch a falling star
By John Donne, around 1600

Have you seen someone catch a falling star, or get a mandrake root pregnant? Can you know where all past years are now they’ve gone, or who gave the devil hoofs that give away his disguises? Do you know of anyone who can listen to mermaid song without going to their doom, or who does not feel envy's sting, or of anyone who knows how to make a honest mind better?

If you have seen these deeds done, things which are invisible to normal men, then ride to tell me. Ride ten thousand days and nights if you have to, ride until age turns your hair white, and swear to tell the truth, that you have seen such things, but you have never seen a woman that is true and fair.

If you say you have seen such a woman, then it would be worth making a pilgrimage for me to see. But even if she only lived next door I’d not bother. In the time it would take you to write a letter telling me about how true she was, she would have had two, or three lovers and I would have wasted my time.



Go and catch a falling star,
Get with child a mandrake root,
Tell me where all past years are,
Or who cleft the devil's foot,
Teach me to hear mermaids singing,
Or to keep off envy's stinging,
And find
What wind
Serves to advance an honest mind.

If thou be'st born to strange sights,
Things invisible to see,
Ride ten thousand days and nights,
Till age snow white hairs on thee,
Thou, when thou return'st, wilt tell me,
All strange wonders that befell thee,
And swear,
No where
Lives a woman true, and fair.

If thou find'st one, let me know,
Such a pilgrimage were sweet;
Yet do not, I would not go,
Though at next door we might meet;
Though she were true, when you met her,
And last, till you write your letter,
Yet she
Will be
False, ere I come, to two, or three.

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No longer mourn for me when I am dead
Then you shall hear the surly sullen bell
Give warning to the world that I am fled
From this vile world, with vilest worms to dwell:
Nay, if you read this line, remember not
The hand that writ it; for I love you so
That I in your sweet thoughts would be forgot
If thinking on me then should make you woe.
O, if, I say, you look upon this verse
When I perhaps compounded am with clay,
Do not so much as my poor name rehearse.
But let your love even with my life decay,
Lest the wise world should look into your moan
And mock you with me after I am gone.

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No longer mourn for me when I am dead
Then you shall hear the surly sullen bell
Give warning to the world that I am fled
From this vile world, with vilest worms to dwell:
Nay, if you read this line, remember not
The hand that writ it; for I love you so
That I in your sweet thoughts would be forgot
If thinking on me then should make you woe.
O, if, I say, you look upon this verse
When I perhaps compounded am with clay,
Do not so much as my poor name rehearse.
But let your love even with my life decay,
Lest the wise world should look into your moan
And mock you with me after I am gone.


In these few lines lie the eternal triangle of love, death and grief, and the name of this triangle is Funeral Doom. But we have to run 3 separate conversations on love, death and funeral doom because each participant in this conversation will have their own definition of what each means to them and it is only those who agree that love + death + grief = Funeral Doom, and that the two sides of the equation balance, can begin to understand each other. Those who do not believe in any of these component parts of Funeral Doom cannot really understand those that do.

Those that romanticise about these components, as is so often the case in the melodic pre Raphaelite influenced Death Doom genre, hold a view akin to those who romanticise about war, or those say they are not afraid of death when they have never faced it, or are young enough to still feel they are immortal. They will view death from their perspective, and can only at best empathise with the terminally ill and very old whose are close to death, and like a method actor, put themselves in their shoes and try to imagine what it must feel like. Same with grief and love, those that haven't experienced them will have to imagine what they must feel like. Those that confuse love with sexual infatuation, which burns like a forest fire for a year or maybe 10, but then goes out may deny its existence, or claim it is fleeting, and end up equating love to hate, or the loss of such love to Funeral Doom.

Then came a Sunday when you came to find me
They bore me to church and I left you behind me
My eyes could not see who I wanted to love me
The earth and the flowers are forever above me
The bell tolled for me and the wind whispered never
But you I have loved and I love you for ever
Last of all sundays


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This is how Funeral Doom so often comes across to me, sung from the mouths of babes, in entertainment venues, with a whooping audience. Feel free to stop the video at any time.


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We stumble over love, hanging back, getting tongue-tied, fluffing our lines, whilst the seconds, minutes, years tick by like the numbers on a petrol pump that show the bill. And when we make a move, we get it wrong, and our imagination and trueness fail us. And those that don't worry about such things, for whom love is lust, the sweet talking deceivers, the liars and the shallow, who do not know the meaning of trueness, like Georgie Porgie, bed the girls and make them cry so easily, effortlessly, but all get what they deserve in the end, absolutely nothing.



As a bumbling actor
on the stage,
Whose stage-fright's made him forget his lines,

Or some street fighter
strong and aggressive,
Whose excesses make him forget his gentle heart;

So I, not trusting
what I say,
forget to say the things that lover’s want to hear,

And the strength of my love
seems to get weaker
Overwhelmed by the burden of my self-doubt.


As an unperfect actor
on the stage,
Who with his fear is put besides his part,

Or some fierce thing
replete with too much rage,
Whose strength’s abundance weakens his own heart;

So I, for fear
of trust, forget to say
The perfect ceremony of love’s rite,

And in mine own love’s
strength seem to decay,
O'ercharged with burden of mine own love’s might.

As an unperfect actor
on the stage,
Who with his fear is put besides his part,

Or some fierce thing
replete with too much rage,
Whose strength’s abundance weakens his own heart;

So I, for fear
of trust, forget to say
The perfect ceremony of love’s rite,

And in mine own love’s
strength seem to decay,
O'ercharged with burden of mine own love’s might.

O let my books be then the eloquence
And dumb presagers of my speaking breast,
Who plead for love and look for recompense
More than that tongue that more hath more expressed.

More.. than.. that.. tongue..
that.. more.. hath..
more.. expressed.

So let my letters speak in eloquence
And be the unspoken words that come from my heart,
They confess my love and seek to see if my love loves me too.
They speak my love better than I could say.


"O learn to read what silent love hath written.
To hear with eyes belongs to love’s fine wit."

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One of the great love stories. And like marriage, it inevitably ends in a five point palm exploding heart punch



take it away...


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