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7th Moon are a tricky band to categorise.

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the Doom elements are quite marginal.

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On the other hand, it never touches upon full-blown Goth Metal, either.



= Dark Metal

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Warhorse (early) added too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKdqQcoqIj0

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Trees of Eternity http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2Vg1TGl7iQ


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Chalice, gothic doom, think if early 3rd and the mortal was more bombastic.


As Divine Grace, atmospheric doom, another one of those bands that followed 3rd and the mortal and played a relatively soft & inoffensive kind of doom.


Riti Occulti, blackened sludge/stoner doom

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Nice thread.
I see ShEver more like a Death Doom band than a Sludge-Drone one. Mmmmm... anyway.

My suggestions:

SACRILEGE
Thrash Doom Metal (third album)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mcDT-0LbVA[/youtube]

THEATRE OF TRAGEDY
Death Doom Metal (first and second album)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zipfufSqdNQ[/youtube]

SERPENT OMEGA
Stoner/Sludge Doom Metal
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egFccGffDPo[/youtube]

ASHES YOU LEAVE
Death Doom Metal (first, second and third album)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UORwPQIDlF8[/youtube]

SHELDER
Heavy Doom Metal
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj9d7ohBsao[/youtube]
*One of the best kept secrets in eighties-trad Doom. ;)

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d.mimøsa wrote:
7th Moon are a tricky band to categorise.

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the Doom elements are quite marginal.

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On the other hand, it never touches upon full-blown Goth Metal, either.


= Dark Metal


Meh, oh so very particular. :p 7th Moon struck me as being similar to Ashes You Leave with tinges of My Dying Bride, I thought of them as being gothic/doom/death-ish sounding. Though I suppose it's not quite slow enough to truly be considered Doom.

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THEATRE OF TRAGEDY
ASHES YOU LEAVE


The male vocals are a bit too dominant for these, don't you think? More so the former than the latter. Since it's relevant, I'd like to point out that the clean singing on Ashes You Leave's first album is pretty decent (particularly on this song). I don't like the vocals on the later albums as much. :(



Okay, this band is Doom for sure. :p In Loving Memory used female vocals on their first demo, then turned into more of a Doom/Death band afterward. I like this, it reminds me of Evictus and It Will Come.

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Feretro from Brazil:

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Orbea variegata wrote:

Riti Occulti, blackened sludge/stoner doom


That's funny, I though it was a man singing, It never occured to me it could have been a woman, but you're right!

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Just dropping another one:

pre-Murkrat stuff: The Slow Death.

Though it's "equally" fronted by Mandy and the dude.

If you like Mournful Congregationish Funeral Doom with female vocals a la early Funeral, then it's for you.

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TheUnhinged wrote:
LateM MooD wrote:
THEATRE OF TRAGEDY
ASHES YOU LEAVE


The male vocals are a bit too dominant for these, don't you think?


Indeed, you're right. I didn't notice this:

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There’s one single criterion: a woman should be the lead singer; if a man sings too, his part should be secondary.


Nevertheless, the figures of Dunja and Liv Kristine were so representative at those times (the Death Doom period of AYL and TOT), that both bands used to be considered by many as female-fronted doom metal acts.


Three more:

JUCIFER
Sludge/Drone Doom Metal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h60meB-UQNQ

NIGHTSKY BEQUEST
Melodic Doom Metal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqGCn_qekbY

BONEDUST
A hard ¿band? (just a sickness female couple) to categorize. Experimental Doom maybe... or maybe not too Doom for some doomsters. Let's see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=per06-2dqnw

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BONEDUST
A hard ¿band? (just a sickness female couple) to categorize. Experimental Doom maybe... or maybe not too Doom for some doomsters. Let's see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=per06-2dqnw



I don't know what it is BUT I LOVE IT!! :oddity: :headbanghair:

If you like that kind of stuff, I suppose you already know OvO and Julie Christmas? Sme twisted, nevrotic stuff.

I've hesitated to put Jucifer in it... Not really doom either, more a downtempo, arty kind of ... thing... I have to relisten to that.

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We have embedded the "spoiler tag" function; the first page should open at a much fatser speed. Less colours though...

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baphomet wrote:
Orbea variegata wrote:

Riti Occulti, blackened sludge/stoner doom


That's funny, I though it was a man singing, It never occured to me it could have been a woman, but you're right!


Hahah, I was wondering how you missed it, but its actually two women. :D

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We have embedded the "spoiler tag" function; the first page should open at a much fatser speed. Less colours though...


Awesome, thanks. :thumbs-up:

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Unfortunately, the YouTube embeddings don't seem to work anymore now that they're 'hidden' inside the spoiler tags... :(

I still find it interesting, bapho, that you suddenly include all those bands that have already been mentioned in our internal discussion, but didn't appear on the original list (Chalice, Occultation etc.). And I'm surprised you've included To Cast a Shadow after all. :O

We seem to have a very different conception of Dark Metal, though I tend to avoid the term altogether since there's no common definition of it: it's very vague and seems to be used for whatever people can't easily categorise, but sounds somewhat darkish. To me, though (owing to the origin of the term and some stuff that has commonly been referred to as Dark Metal), Dark Metal is more of a BM derivative, also borrowing the vocal style most of the time (though clean vocals may be used, too), but with a much softer approach, often with lots of keyboards etc. You know, the thing that happens if you make Melodic/Atmospheric/Symphonic BM even mellower, take away the blast beats and so on. I've heard a number of bands in this style over the years, but can hardly remember any names since I find this stuff so terribly uninteresting. The only band that comes to mind is Agathodaimon who, with the exception of some songs with stronger BM influences, could qualify as Dark Metal in my book. Here's an example:

You'll notice that this is very different from 7th Moon who, to me, clearly have Gothic as their first name. The last name, on the other hand, is debatable. But to me - as outlined above - Dark Metal has little to do with Gothic or Doom Metal...

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That is because the youtube tags were replaced with spoiler tags when it should have youtube tags inside of the spoiler tags like this:

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Rituals of the Oak
http://ritualsoftheoak.blogspot.be/
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Quote my post to see how its done.

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Orbea variegata wrote:
That is because the youtube tags were replaced with spoiler tags when it should have youtube tags inside of the spoiler tags like this:

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Rituals of the Oak
http://ritualsoftheoak.blogspot.be/
Spoiler: show


Quote my post to see how its done.


all fixed now.

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NIGHTSKY BEQUEST
Melodic Doom Metal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqGCn_qekbY

Now that's some pretty decent old-school Atmospheric Doom - great find, thanks!

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We seem to have a very different conception of Dark Metal, though I tend to avoid the term altogether since there's no common definition of it: it's very vague and seems to be used for whatever people can't easily categorise, but sounds somewhat darkish.


Does anybody else think this would make for an interesting thread topic? :D

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Off the top of my head this is what I call Dark Metal bands (not discussing of the very peculiar form of Dark Metal, maybe the only genuine one though, of Bethlehem)

Moonspell – no link, you kow them
Asgaroth
Spoiler: show

Soulfallen
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As Light Dies
Spoiler: show

Darktrance
Spoiler: show

StrommoussHeld
Spoiler: show

Aeon Noctis
Spoiler: show

Tryptikon
Spoiler: show

Hortus Animae
Spoiler: show

Kamlath
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Interestingly, MA list As Light Dies as « Death/Black/Doom/Gothic Metal », that’s how difficult to tag this « genre » is : you can also throw in some electro elements like in Asgaroth or StrommoussHeld… Roughly, I call « Dark Metal » all those bands that don’t stick to any distinctive, classic patterns, but instead use them all, and often inside the same song ; what ties them together being the overall mid- to slow tempo and the melancholic/gloomy/doomy feel of the music.
Of course some a far more musically diverse and excentric than others : there’s little between As Light Dies and Tryptikon, I admit. It's a mixed bag where I put bands that escapes all traditional label, or for which the label you could come up with would be as ridiculous as "Death/Black/Doom/Gothic Metal"...!

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baphomet wrote:
LateM MooD wrote:

BONEDUST
A hard ¿band? (just a sickness female couple) to categorize. Experimental Doom maybe... or maybe not too Doom for some doomsters. Let's see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=per06-2dqnw



I don't know what it is BUT I LOVE IT!! :oddity: :headbanghair:

If you like that kind of stuff, I suppose you already know OvO and Julie Christmas? Sme twisted, nevrotic stuff.

I've hesitated to put Jucifer in it... Not really doom either, more a downtempo, arty kind of ... thing... I have to relisten to that.


Hey, thanks for those recommendations. I'll check them in a moment.
I agree about Jucifer. They're a bit weird couple to me. A few songs are really into Sludge Doom Metal, but most of them are... as you've said: "more a downtempo, arty kind of... thing...".


The last one... blessed by "the true Iron Man" Alfred Morris:

FORCE
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