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....slow, ...mainly clean vocals, ....epic, ....twin guitars etc.

Thanks in advance.


Thinking of these:

Crypt Sermon
Griftegard
The Doomsday Cult
Gallow God
Temple of Pain
Oak (from Sweden)

Any more recommendations for me in this direction?

Can you tell me the names of your favorite Epic Doom bands (...if it's not too much asked for, leave out the ones with singers sounding like Manowar....)?

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Can you tell me the names of your favorite Epic Doom bands (...if it's not too much asked for, leave out the ones with singers sounding like Manowar....)?

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The one that never disappoints me is Isole. They don't evolve much, but I dislike none of their releases.
Then Forsaken's Dominaeon and After The Fall. Not the other albums they've put out, only these two.
Then only after these two bands, Candlemass and Solitude Aeturnus.
In the newest projects, I like Altar of Oblivion, but again, not all of their songs. Sinews Of Anguish is perhaps the work of theirs that I like the most. Death The Leveller is another good newcomer. But If I had to recommend one act unknown of the masses, it'd be Soul of Enoch for sure.

And then, I still advise you to get over your disgust for Manowar-like vocals and to go listen to All Souls Day's one and unique output. It's some outstanding epic doom!

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Baphomet thank you so much for taking the time to answer my questions. I highly appreciate those recommendations and will check each of them (Isole is already part of my collection).

And yes, you are right, I need to be more open minded regarding the vocals. I'll do my best.

Solitude Aeternus I have heard much about but nothing of. But I can remember them being celebrated in the zines in the mid to end nineties. So I'll put them on top of my list.

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Give this ep a chance, I hope it'll convince you ;):



also, shame on me, I forgot Great Coven as a major epic doom act, they sit high in my ranking.

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Can you tell me the names of your favorite Epic Doom bands


Early Sorcerer is great. Solstice as well (used to prefer their second album, but I've listened a lot to Lamentations lately and now I'm not so sure).
The Temple is good.
Unsilence's second album is great, never listened to their first one.
If you're into Folk/Pagan, Mael Mordha is awesome (their debut in particular). You could also try Thrym.
Oh, and also, Evangelist (nowadays Monasterium), I quite like them.


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I second Mael Mordha; and I agree that their debut is their best BUT only the original pressing! The rerelease is a mess, first, production-wise it hasn't the same smoothness and natural flow and the tracklist has changed as well! By all means, if you have to check that album out, pick the right release!

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I found out about that band that'll probably make it just in time in my end-of-the-year list; it's what you could call Funeral Sludge, somewhere between Asunder, Yhdarl and UR... Doesn't that make you drool over?
https://owlcrusher.bandcamp.com/

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Didn't know All Souls Day. It's amazing! :O :O

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Can you tell me the names of your favorite Epic Doom bands (...if it's not too much asked for, leave out the ones with singers sounding like Manowar....)?

Thanks in advance.


The one that never disappoints me is Isole. They don't evolve much, but I dislike none of their releases.
Then Forsaken's Dominaeon and After The Fall. Not the other albums they've put out, only these two.
Then only after these two bands, Candlemass and Solitude Aeturnus.
In the newest projects, I like Altar of Oblivion, but again, not all of their songs. Sinews Of Anguish is perhaps the work of theirs that I like the most. Death The Leveller is another good newcomer. But If I had to recommend one act unknown of the masses, it'd be Soul of Enoch for sure.

And then, I still advise you to get over your disgust for Manowar-like vocals and to go listen to All Souls Day's one and unique output. It's some outstanding epic doom!


Just recommend him Count Raven; that's all he will really need...


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I never considered Count Raven to be epic in any way... I'd recommend them at once to anyone in search for excellent trad doom though.

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I never considered Count Raven to be epic in any way... I'd recommend them at once to anyone in search for excellent trad doom though.


If they're not epic, I don't know what epic is; besides, these two terms are used interchangeably. What's the difference?


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you mean between epic and trad?

If so, there's as much difference as between Conan The Barbarian and... I don't know... John Wayne?
the first is as fanciful as the second is grounded in reality - Count Raven is very grounded in every-day life - although I can admit there's a "touch" of lyricism in Count Raven. Let's say they make the bridge. :;):

Here's the definitions this site gives for each style:

Epic Doom:
combines the grandiose, epic side of Heavy Metal with Doom Metal's tempos and moods. It is often characterized by longer songs, occasional progressive passages, clean vocals and a strong sense of lyrical drama.

Traditional Doom :
A term brought about in the 1990s, when Doom Metal began to diversify. Bands who formed after this time period and yet chose to mostly adhere to the foundations laid by the original Doom Metal and Proto Doom bands were hereafter classified as Traditional Doom (also referred to as 'Trad Doom').

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Epic Doom:
combines the grandiose, epic side of Heavy Metal with Doom Metal's tempos and moods. It is often characterized by longer songs, occasional progressive passages, clean vocals and a strong sense of lyrical drama.

You just described the music of Count Raven, right there...


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Speaking of Count Raven, in their song true revelation... they lyrics at the end of the song

"Then along comes the one - You know who"

Who they were referring to?? :D

Regardless if they Epic or traditional doom... for the sake of my mind sanity :homer: , I categorize doom metal into

* Doom (traditional, epic, stoner/doom)
* Extreme Doom (Doom/Death, Funeral, black/doom, sludge/doom)
* Ethereal (ambient, drone/doom, atmospheric doom, gothic doom)
* Beyond Doom (Avantgarde, industrial...etc and anything that does not fit into the top 3)


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* Doom (traditional, epic, stoner/doom)
* Extreme Doom (Doom/Death, Funeral, black/doom, sludge/doom)
* Ethereal (ambient, drone/doom, atmospheric doom, gothic doom)
* Beyond Doom (Avantgarde, industrial...etc and anything that does not fit into the top 3)


waaay too simple! If you're not a nevrotic nitpicker, you're not a fan! :D

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* Doom (traditional, epic, stoner/doom)
* Extreme Doom (Doom/Death, Funeral, black/doom, sludge/doom)
* Ethereal (ambient, drone/doom, atmospheric doom, gothic doom)
* Beyond Doom (Avantgarde, industrial...etc and anything that does not fit into the top 3)


waaay too simple! If you're not a nevrotic nitpicker, you're not a fan! :D


hehehe yeah, as I said for my mind sanity..

but to be honest, I don't see those labels fit sometimes, a lot of subgenre are kind fusion into each others. Even sometimes bands are labeled with a term I don't see fit, for example, the genre doom/death is given to bands that they do not even have 10% of their music that can be called as Death Metal..

Even sometimes, I feel some bands are not doom, because their music is not slow at all... but yet they are known as doom bands for example Novembers Doom.. to me their metal is not doom at all.. maybe only 1995 release.. Amid its Hallowed Mirth... after that im not really sure what kind of metal is that (im not expert in other kind of metal..hek im not expert in doom as well :P)


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wyrd wrote:
Just recommend him Count Raven; that's all he will really need...

Gracias Amigo.
High On Infinity seems promising!

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wyrd wrote:
Just recommend him Count Raven; that's all he will really need...

Gracias Amigo.
High On Infinity seems promising!


Storm Warning and Mammons War are also absolute killers. If that's not fucking EPIC music, I wouldn't know what epic is if it kicked me in the head...


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wyrd wrote:
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wyrd wrote:
Just recommend him Count Raven; that's all he will really need...

Gracias Amigo.
High On Infinity seems promising!


Storm Warning and Mammons War are also absolute killers. If that's not fucking EPIC music, I wouldn't know what epic is if it kicked me in the head...

Thank you.
High On Infinity is a Christmas present for me. I'll try the other ones as well!

Also Im surprised by the variety of their lyric topics: Political, social & environment stuff! (In one song they are asking to change the law so a man can marry two women :D - clearly epic!!!)

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Yup, Count Raven was very recent pleasant discovery for me as well...it has been a long time I am listening to a song and at least have a rough idea what the lyrics is about... :D


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